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Poor plan when joining against a union containing a join
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David Leverton
2013-03-06 14:54:04 UTC
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Hi all,

I'm encountering very poor query plans when joining against a union,
where one branch of the union is itself a join: specifically, Postgres
does the entire inside join and then filters the result, rather than
pushing the filters down to the joined tables. I've provided a
standalone test case below, including some variations that don't show
the problem for comparison. The fourth query is the problematic one -
I would have expected the Append portion of the plan to be essentially
the same as the one in the second query.

I'm running Postgres 9.2.3 on Oracle Enterprise Linux 5 (some machines
5.3, some 5.6) x86_64, installed using the RPMs from
http://yum.pgrpms.org/. The problem occurs with identical results
(other than raw speed) on both a rather underpowered test server with
default Postgres settings and a much better live server which I've
attempted to tune somewhat sensibly.

Thanks for any advice.

START TRANSACTION;

CREATE TABLE bundle_contents(
item_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY,
bundle_type INTEGER NOT NULL
);
INSERT INTO bundle_contents(item_id, bundle_type)
SELECT i * 10 + j, i
FROM GENERATE_SERIES(1, 100) i,
GENERATE_SERIES(1, 10) j;
CREATE INDEX ON bundle_contents(bundle_type, item_id);
ANALYSE bundle_contents;

CREATE TABLE bundle(
bundle_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY,
bundle_type INTEGER NOT NULL
);
INSERT INTO bundle(bundle_id, bundle_type)
SELECT i * 1000 + j, i
FROM GENERATE_SERIES(1, 100) i,
GENERATE_SERIES(1, 1000) j;
CREATE INDEX ON bundle(bundle_type, bundle_id);
ANALYSE bundle;

CREATE VIEW bundled_item AS
SELECT bundle_id AS item_id_a, item_id AS item_id_b
FROM bundle NATURAL JOIN bundle_contents;

CREATE TABLE unbundled_item(
item_id_a INTEGER,
item_id_b INTEGER,
PRIMARY KEY (item_id_a, item_id_b)
);
INSERT INTO unbundled_item(item_id_a, item_id_b)
SELECT i, 1 FROM GENERATE_SERIES(1001, 100000, 10) i;
INSERT INTO unbundled_item(item_id_a, item_id_b)
SELECT i, 2 FROM GENERATE_SERIES(1001, 100000, 20) i;
INSERT INTO unbundled_item(item_id_a, item_id_b)
SELECT i, 3 FROM GENERATE_SERIES(1001, 100000, 23) i;
INSERT INTO unbundled_item(item_id_a, item_id_b)
SELECT i, 4 FROM GENERATE_SERIES(1001, 100000, 41) i;
CREATE INDEX ON unbundled_item(item_id_b);
ANALYSE unbundled_item;

CREATE VIEW item AS
SELECT item_id_a, item_id_b FROM bundled_item
UNION ALL
SELECT item_id_a, item_id_b FROM unbundled_item;

CREATE TABLE item_reference(
reference_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY,
item_id_a INTEGER NOT NULL,
item_id_b INTEGER NOT NULL
);
INSERT INTO item_reference(reference_id, item_id_a, item_id_b)
VALUES(1, 1472, 16),
(2, 1299, 3);
CREATE INDEX ON item_reference(item_id_a, item_id_b);
CREATE INDEX ON item_reference(item_id_b);
ANALYSE item_reference;

-- no union, nice and fast
EXPLAIN (ANALYSE, BUFFERS)
SELECT *
FROM bundled_item
WHERE (item_id_a, item_id_b) = (1472, 16);
/* http://explain.depesz.com/s/1ye
QUERY PLAN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nested Loop (cost=0.00..16.56 rows=1 width=8) (actual
time=0.040..0.041 rows=1 loops=1)
Join Filter: (bundle.bundle_type = bundle_contents.bundle_type)
Buffers: shared hit=8
-> Index Scan using bundle_pkey on bundle (cost=0.00..8.28 rows=1
width=8) (actual time=0.017..0.017 rows=1 loops=1)
Index Cond: (bundle_id = 1472)
Buffers: shared hit=4
-> Index Scan using bundle_contents_pkey on bundle_contents
(cost=0.00..8.27 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.012..0.013 rows=1
loops=1)
Index Cond: (item_id = 16)
Buffers: shared hit=4
Total runtime: 0.085 ms
(10 rows)
*/

-- using the union, but querying it directly rather
-- than joining to it, still fast
EXPLAIN (ANALYSE, BUFFERS)
SELECT *
FROM item
WHERE (item_id_a, item_id_b) = (1472, 16);
/* http://explain.depesz.com/s/rwA

QUERY PLAN
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Result (cost=0.00..24.84 rows=2 width=8) (actual time=0.017..0.068
rows=1 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=6 read=3
I/O Timings: read=0.032
-> Append (cost=0.00..24.84 rows=2 width=8) (actual
time=0.015..0.066 rows=1 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=6 read=3
I/O Timings: read=0.032
-> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..16.56 rows=1 width=8) (actual
time=0.015..0.017 rows=1 loops=1)
Join Filter: (bundle.bundle_type = bundle_contents.bundle_type)
Buffers: shared hit=6
-> Index Scan using bundle_pkey on bundle
(cost=0.00..8.28 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.006..0.007 rows=1
loops=1)
Index Cond: (bundle_id = 1472)
Buffers: shared hit=3
-> Index Scan using bundle_contents_pkey on
bundle_contents (cost=0.00..8.27 rows=1 width=8) (actual
time=0.004..0.005 rows=1 loops=1)
Index Cond: (item_id = 16)
Buffers: shared hit=3
-> Index Scan using unbundled_item_item_id_b_idx on
unbundled_item (cost=0.00..8.27 rows=1 width=8) (actual
time=0.049..0.049 rows=0 loops=1)
Index Cond: (item_id_b = 16)
Filter: (item_id_a = 1472)
Buffers: shared read=3
I/O Timings: read=0.032
Total runtime: 0.116 ms
(21 rows)
*/

-- join but no union, still fast
EXPLAIN (ANALYSE, BUFFERS)
SELECT *
FROM bundled_item
NATURAL JOIN item_reference
WHERE reference_id = 1;
/* http://explain.depesz.com/s/oOy
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nested Loop (cost=1.04..4.50 rows=1 width=12) (actual
time=0.092..0.096 rows=1 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=5 read=3
I/O Timings: read=0.038
-> Merge Join (cost=1.04..1.33 rows=1 width=16) (actual
time=0.032..0.035 rows=1 loops=1)
Merge Cond: (bundle_contents.item_id = item_reference.item_id_b)
Buffers: shared hit=4
-> Index Scan using bundle_contents_pkey on bundle_contents
(cost=0.00..43.25 rows=1000 width=8) (actual time=0.010..0.013 rows=7
loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=3
-> Sort (cost=1.03..1.04 rows=1 width=12) (actual
time=0.012..0.012 rows=1 loops=1)
Sort Key: item_reference.item_id_b
Sort Method: quicksort Memory: 25kB
Buffers: shared hit=1
-> Seq Scan on item_reference (cost=0.00..1.02 rows=1
width=12) (actual time=0.005..0.007 rows=1 loops=1)
Filter: (reference_id = 1)
Rows Removed by Filter: 1
Buffers: shared hit=1
-> Index Only Scan using bundle_bundle_type_bundle_id_idx on
bundle (cost=0.00..3.16 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=0.056..0.057
rows=1 loops=1)
Index Cond: ((bundle_type = bundle_contents.bundle_type) AND
(bundle_id = item_reference.item_id_a))
Heap Fetches: 1
Buffers: shared hit=1 read=3
I/O Timings: read=0.038
Total runtime: 0.139 ms
(22 rows)
*/

-- join to the union, slow. the conditions are pushed into the
-- index scan in the non-join branch of the union, but in the join
-- branch they're applied after the entire join is built
EXPLAIN (ANALYSE, BUFFERS)
SELECT *
FROM item
NATURAL JOIN item_reference
WHERE reference_id = 1;
/* http://explain.depesz.com/s/M73
QUERY PLAN
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nested Loop (cost=27.50..27979.82 rows=26 width=12) (actual
time=3.230..554.473 rows=1 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=452
-> Seq Scan on item_reference (cost=0.00..1.02 rows=1 width=12)
(actual time=0.013..0.016 rows=1 loops=1)
Filter: (reference_id = 1)
Rows Removed by Filter: 1
Buffers: shared hit=1
-> Append (cost=27.50..27978.78 rows=2 width=8) (actual
time=3.214..554.454 rows=1 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=451
-> Subquery Scan on "*SELECT* 1" (cost=27.50..27970.50
rows=1 width=8) (actual time=3.212..554.422 rows=1 loops=1)
Filter: ((item_reference.item_id_a = "*SELECT*
1".item_id_a) AND (item_reference.item_id_b = "*SELECT* 1".item_id_b))
Rows Removed by Filter: 999999
Buffers: shared hit=448
-> Hash Join (cost=27.50..12970.50 rows=1000000
width=8) (actual time=0.617..344.127 rows=1000000 loops=1)
Hash Cond: (bundle.bundle_type =
bundle_contents.bundle_type)
Buffers: shared hit=448
-> Seq Scan on bundle (cost=0.00..1443.00
rows=100000 width=8) (actual time=0.009..22.066 rows=100000 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=443
-> Hash (cost=15.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8)
(actual time=0.594..0.594 rows=1000 loops=1)
Buckets: 1024 Batches: 1 Memory Usage: 40kB
Buffers: shared hit=5
-> Seq Scan on bundle_contents
(cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) (actual time=0.008..0.207
rows=1000 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=5
-> Index Only Scan using unbundled_item_pkey on
unbundled_item (cost=0.00..8.28 rows=1 width=8) (actual
time=0.021..0.021 rows=0 loops=1)
Index Cond: ((item_id_a = item_reference.item_id_a) AND
(item_id_b = item_reference.item_id_b))
Heap Fetches: 0
Buffers: shared hit=3
Total runtime: 554.533 ms
(27 rows)
*/

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Josh Berkus
2013-03-06 23:15:08 UTC
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Post by David Leverton
Hi all,
I'm encountering very poor query plans when joining against a union,
where one branch of the union is itself a join: specifically, Postgres
does the entire inside join and then filters the result, rather than
pushing the filters down to the joined tables. I've provided a
standalone test case below, including some variations that don't show
the problem for comparison. The fourth query is the problematic one -
I would have expected the Append portion of the plan to be essentially
the same as the one in the second query.
Thanks for the test case!

Actually, in case #4, Postgres *is* pushing down the join qual into the
segments of the Union. It's just that that's not helping performance
any; it's causing a really slow join on bundle, which is actually where
you're spending most of your time:

-> Hash Join (cost=27.50..12970.50 rows=1000000
width=8) (actual time=0.617..344.127 rows=1000000 loops=1)
Hash Cond: (bundle.bundle_type =
bundle_contents.bundle_type)
Buffers: shared hit=448
-> Seq Scan on bundle (cost=0.00..1443.00
rows=100000 width=8) (actual time=0.009..22.066 rows=100000 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=443
-> Hash (cost=15.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8)
(actual time=0.594..0.594 rows=1000 loops=1)
Buckets: 1024 Batches: 1 Memory Usage: 40kB
Buffers: shared hit=5
-> Seq Scan on bundle_contents
(cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) (actual time=0.008..0.207
rows=1000 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=5

Clearly this is the wrong strategy; Postgres should be letting the
filter on item_reference be the driver instead of hashing the whole
bundle + bundle_contents join. I suspect that the qual pushdown into
the union is hitting an inability to transverse multiple joins, which
wouldn't surprise me; in fact, I'd be surprised if it could do so.

On a pragmatic basis, joining against complex UNION expressions is
liable to be a bit of a minefield for the next few generations of the
Postgres planner; it's just really hard to optimize. You might think of
using outer joins instead of a UNION.
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Tom Lane
2013-03-07 05:52:35 UTC
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Post by Josh Berkus
Post by David Leverton
I'm encountering very poor query plans when joining against a union,
Actually, in case #4, Postgres *is* pushing down the join qual into the
segments of the Union.
Yeah, but not further. I believe the core issue here (as of 9.2) is
that we're not willing to generate parameterized paths for subquery
relations. We could do that without a huge amount of new code,
I think, but the scary thing is how much time it might take to generate
(and then discard most of the) plans for assorted parameterizations of
complicated subqueries.

regards, tom lane
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David Leverton
2013-03-07 18:21:52 UTC
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Post by Tom Lane
Post by Josh Berkus
Post by David Leverton
I'm encountering very poor query plans when joining against a union,
Actually, in case #4, Postgres *is* pushing down the join qual into the
segments of the Union.
Yeah, but not further. I believe the core issue here (as of 9.2) is
that we're not willing to generate parameterized paths for subquery
relations. We could do that without a huge amount of new code,
I think, but the scary thing is how much time it might take to generate
(and then discard most of the) plans for assorted parameterizations of
complicated subqueries.
Thanks for looking at this, both of you.

Does "as of 9.2" mean it's better in 9.3? I do intend to upgrade once
it's released, so if it can handle this better (or if there's anything
that can be done to improve it between now and then without making
other things worse) that would be great. Otherwise, I'm wondering if
the addition of LATERAL will help persuade the planner to do what I
want, something like this, perhaps? (please excuse any syntax
misunderstandings):

SELECT *
FROM item_reference,
LATERAL (
SELECT *
FROM item
WHERE (item.item_id_a, item.item_id_b)
= (item_reference.item_id_a, item_reference.item_id_b)
) item
WHERE reference_id = 1;

I'm hoping this might help as the query in the test case where the
desired item_id_a and item_id_b were supplied literally rather than
from a join was fast, and this version has a similar structure,
although naturally it'll only work if the planner doesn't notice that
it's really equivalent to the slow version and treat it the same way.

If not though, and in the meantime in any case, I suppose I'm looking
for a workaround. In the real application the queries involved are
generated by code rather than hand-written, so it's not a disaster if
they have to be uglified a bit more than they are already. I'll see
if I can figure something out, but if anyone has any suggestions they
would be much appreciated.

I'm afraid I don't really see how Josh's outer join suggestion would
help here, though, unless it was more of a general principle than
something specific to this case. The two branches of the union don't
have any tables in common, so I don't see what I could be joining to.

Ideally any alternative would keep the semantics the same as the
existing version, or at least as similar as possible, as the
application does need (or at least very much wants) to be able to work
with items, including using them in further joins, without caring
whether they're loose or part of a bundle. (And yes, it is a rather
scary design in places, but it's the best thing I could come up with
to achieve the requirements. Not sure if that says more about the
requirements or me....)
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Tom Lane
2013-03-07 18:47:02 UTC
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Post by David Leverton
Post by Tom Lane
Post by Josh Berkus
Actually, in case #4, Postgres *is* pushing down the join qual into the
segments of the Union.
Yeah, but not further. I believe the core issue here (as of 9.2) is
that we're not willing to generate parameterized paths for subquery
relations. We could do that without a huge amount of new code,
I think, but the scary thing is how much time it might take to generate
(and then discard most of the) plans for assorted parameterizations of
complicated subqueries.
Thanks for looking at this, both of you.
Does "as of 9.2" mean it's better in 9.3?
No, I meant it was worse before 9.2 --- previous versions weren't even
theoretically capable of generating the plan shape you want. What
you're after is for the sub-join to be treated as a parameterized
sub-plan, and we did not have any ability to do that for anything more
complicated than a single-relation scan.
Post by David Leverton
I do intend to upgrade once
it's released, so if it can handle this better (or if there's anything
that can be done to improve it between now and then without making
other things worse) that would be great. Otherwise, I'm wondering if
the addition of LATERAL will help persuade the planner to do what I
want, something like this, perhaps?
Good idea, but no such luck in that form: it's still not going to try to
push the parameterization down into the sub-query. I think you'd have
to write out the query with the views expanded and manually put the
WHERE restrictions into the lowest join level. [ experiments... ]
Looks like only the UNION view has to be manually expanded to get a
good plan with HEAD:

regression=# explain SELECT *
FROM item_reference,
LATERAL (
SELECT item_id_a, item_id_b FROM bundled_item WHERE (item_id_a, item_id_b)
= (item_reference.item_id_a, item_reference.item_id_b)
UNION ALL
SELECT item_id_a, item_id_b FROM unbundled_item WHERE (item_id_a, item_id_b)
= (item_reference.item_id_a, item_reference.item_id_b)
) item
WHERE reference_id = 1;
QUERY PLAN
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nested Loop (cost=0.57..25.99 rows=2 width=20)
-> Seq Scan on item_reference (cost=0.00..1.02 rows=1 width=12)
Filter: (reference_id = 1)
-> Append (cost=0.57..24.94 rows=2 width=8)
-> Nested Loop (cost=0.57..16.61 rows=1 width=8)
Join Filter: (bundle.bundle_type = bundle_contents.bundle_type)
-> Index Scan using bundle_pkey on bundle (cost=0.29..8.31 rows=1 width=8)
Index Cond: (bundle_id = item_reference.item_id_a)
-> Index Scan using bundle_contents_pkey on bundle_contents (cost=0.28..8.29 rows=1 width=8)
Index Cond: (item_id = item_reference.item_id_b)
-> Index Only Scan using unbundled_item_pkey on unbundled_item (cost=0.29..8.31 rows=1 width=8)
Index Cond: ((item_id_a = item_reference.item_id_a) AND (item_id_b = item_reference.item_id_b))
(12 rows)


You might be able to accomplish something similar without LATERAL, if
you're willing to give up the notational convenience of the views.
Don't have time right now to experiment further though.

regards, tom lane
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David Leverton
2013-03-08 13:49:56 UTC
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Post by Tom Lane
Good idea, but no such luck in that form: it's still not going to try to
push the parameterization down into the sub-query. I think you'd have
to write out the query with the views expanded and manually put the
WHERE restrictions into the lowest join level. [ experiments... ]
Looks like only the UNION view has to be manually expanded to get a
Thanks for checking that, good to know that there's a way forward with
9.3 even in the worst case of not finding anything for 9.2.
Post by Tom Lane
You might be able to accomplish something similar without LATERAL, if
you're willing to give up the notational convenience of the views.
Don't have time right now to experiment further though.
No problem, I don't expect you do to everything for me ;-) (although
if you do find the time to come up with something before I do, that
would of course be very welcome) and there's no desperate rush in any
case.
Post by Tom Lane
I believe the core issue here (as of 9.2) is
that we're not willing to generate parameterized paths for subquery
relations. We could do that without a huge amount of new code,
I think, but the scary thing is how much time it might take to generate
(and then discard most of the) plans for assorted parameterizations of
complicated subqueries.
Would it be reasonable to support this with some sort of configurable
complexity threshold for the subquery, above which the planner won't
bother? Probably not the most elegant solution, but maybe something
to consider. It seems similar in spirit to from_collapse_limit and
join_collapse_limit, in the sense of controlling how much effort to
put in for complex queries.
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